Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu said on Monday it was important to take steps towards the recognition of the ‘TRNC’ during budget discussions at the Turkish parliament.
Cavusoglu called on the Turkish government and opposition “to work together to make the [TRNC] passport valid in more countries and open up more representations in cities around the world”.
“The embargoes imposed on the TRNC must be removed. The EU has not kept its word on this.”
Cavusoglu added that Ankara was not responsible for the collapse of the Cyprus negotiations in Crans-Montana in July and that they had concluded a solution would not be possible within the current parameters.
“There was no solution because the Greek Cypriots did not want to share government, power and the economy with the Turkish Cypriots,” he said.
“Right now, there are elections in the south and north, so there is no point in talking about this beforehand, we shouldn’t make this an election issue – it is a national policy.”
The foreign minister said they would sit down with the Turkish Cypriot authorities after the elections in January and discuss future steps to be taken.
177 Comments
Gismo
January 7, 2018 at 21:13Recognition of the TRNC is on the cards together with the admission of Turkey into the EU probably within the next two years. This would also mean the TRNC joining the EU and the border between Greek Cyprus and Turkish Cyprus becoming meaningless and will naturally disappear. This leads to the UN becoming redundant and monitoring nothing – they would have to go and save the donor nations a lot of money. That leaves the Greek and Turkish military to be moved off the Island. The people most affected by this massive shift in politics will be the Greek Cypriot community because it makes a nonsense of “oxi” and they will have to get their head around coming to terms with the other half of the population. Time to move on, folks.
Gold51
December 19, 2017 at 10:35Turkey can spend billions if it likes on the Turkish occupied areas of the Republuc of Cyprus…. Great..!!
But as far as recognition is concerned…. NO CHANCE EVER.!!
So that dumbo from “Turkey” can carry on hallucinating and grovelling as much as he likes, Its a fact
Turkey must remove all its troops and all its illegale Anatolian grubby squatters from Cyprus eventually.
Turkey will loose out on all waisted billions just as it did in Syria and Got “NOTHING” back in return.!!
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 12:07Christmas time, dream time! Recognition of the TRNC is the sovereign right of each state according to its national interests. Turkey is by far more important to international commerce than a tiny half island state.
Just keep tuned in, it will happen soon.
alexanderthegreat
December 19, 2017 at 14:38Well, you’ve been trying to get recognition for the TRNC for decades. How’s that gone for you so far?
These farcical ‘negotiations’ have dragged on long enough. The ROC should close the border, and snub the TRNC completely, like South Korea, and most of the world, snubs North Korea. And whilst we’re at it, let’s do the same to Turkey(if that doesn’t rattle them to the core, nothing will).
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 14:44You have strange thoughts. Recognition was not realistic as long as the UN pursued re-unification. No country wanted to put spanner in the works. Now, with the UN slowly retreating, it’s a new ball game and recognition will come in time. The border cannot be unilaterally closed as it would be in contravention of the EU accession agreement of the “ROC”. It would amount to giving up the charade of controlling the whole island and with it the recognition of the TRNC. Your leaders are not even thinking about that.
For a tiny half island state, the size of a small town in Turkey, the idea to “snub” Turkey is the joke of the year.
alexanderthegreat
December 29, 2017 at 00:34Well, the ROC controlling the whole island is, in any event, a charade anyway, given that the TRNC is an artificial pseudostate that was created and sustained by sheer by sheer virtue of Turkey’s illegal occupation and continued occupation. As anyone with more than half a brain knows, the ROC government only controls the territory it legally holds, not the 36% that was illegally seized and retained by the invading Turkish army.
As for “snubbing” Turkey, the ROC is already doing that, by ensuring that only the ROC is legitimately recognised, whilst the TRNC remains stuck in unrecognised, embargoed limbo(i.e., out in the cold, where it belongs). Add to this the fact that the ROC is in the EU, where it can use its veto to keep Turkey out of the EU(not that it’s necessary; hardly any EU members want an Islamofascist nation like Turkey, of all countries, to join the club), I’d say the ROC is doing pretty well, considering. This all bodes well for the ROC’s future, unlike the TRNC pseudostate, which has no future(or if it does, a pretty abysmal and hopeless future).
HighTide
December 29, 2017 at 09:24You are nicely contradicting yourself. The “ROC” is irrelevant for Turkey’s EU membership application, since important EU states are blocking it, as you point out yourself. That alone shows the “ROC” being sidelined. A dwarf trying to ‘snub’ Turkey is comparable to a mouse pi55ing on an elephant’s leg. You have no understanding of today’s conditions in the TRNC, just doodling old propaganda. Be grateful that Trump has lowered your tax rate and don’t worry about us.
alexanderthegreat
December 29, 2017 at 18:33FYI, Trump hasn’t lowered my tax rate, given that I don’t even live in the USA, or even been there, to date. And no, the ROC isn’t being side-lined, given that the large, ‘important’ EU states are in full agreement with the ROC as to why the Islamofascist rogue state of Turkey should be kept out, come what may. What’s even worse, though, is how Turkey is becoming ever more dangerous, now that delusional Islamists like Erdogan and Co are in charge, viewing themselves, as they do, as Sultans of a resurrected, revived Ottoman Empire. Perish the thought!
Granted, the ROC is, as you say, a dwarf compared to Turkey, which is all the more reason why the ROC needs safety in numbers, by being a member of the EU club. In fact, almost any small, non-EU member who has the misfortune of being close to Turkey, should seek EU membership, for guaranteed security(amongst numerous other reasons).
Message to Turkey: Take your EU application bids, and stick ’em where the Sun don’t shine!
Message to TRNC: Dissolve yourself, accepted protected minority status, join the ROC, and be part of the secular, liberal EU. Failing that, continue as you are–as an unrecognised, embargoed pseudostate ruled by a Turkish/Ottoman/Islamist slave-master based Ankara; and lay there and rot(like you’ve been doing, since 1974, anyway).
HighTide
December 29, 2017 at 18:38You are living in dreamland. The big boys in the EU make their own decisions, regardless of little Cyprus’ stance. Neither does the EU provide security for the “ROC”, it has no such means and no such obligation. You have to rely on the Larnaca Fire Brigade. ‘Messages to Turkey’ you must send to Ankara. This is Cyprus. The TRNC is doing quite nicely, the rot is in the South. Enjoy!
alexanderthegreat
January 9, 2018 at 19:09The TRNC is doing quite nicely, is it? Well, you could’ve fooled me! If that’s truly the case, as you say, then why are the Turkish-Cypriots ceaselessly complaining about–and demanding an end to–their economic, diplomatic and political isolation? Surely there will come a point when the Turkish-Cypriots will decide that being part of a recognised ROC in the EU is a far better option than the Turkified, Islamized and backwardized status they’re currently stuck in(not counting the Turkish army and Anatolian settlers, of course, who personify all the ugly features I’ve mentioned).
HighTide
January 9, 2018 at 19:20Naturaly, you are entitled to maintain your illusions. It does not change the facts on the ground that you obviously don’t know. Read the TRNC election results for a change. Even better, visit once and you will be speechless.
Orhan Ozdes
January 6, 2018 at 20:17You make me feel so scared! Am I reading a horror book?
divadi bear
January 9, 2018 at 11:21I say NO to letting Turkey into the EU and a resounding NO to reunification of the island of Cyprus !
Lile A.t.G., keep the border as is in N. and S. Korea !
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 06:49I can tell you mainland Turks are over this….they want the thing sorted
Before the purge there were even articles in turkey arguing how unrealistic the 50% split is ….the settlers makes it look like the old ottoman ethnic colonisation of the last….Kosovo for example….only causes more strife
Now with the purge it’s hard to find Turks that will up
I do
But I visit turkey regularly don’t live there
The TCs leadership is hostages to Ankara
Left on their own the TCs could progress…the fear of the past massacres is used to demonise the Greeks as baby eating monsters etc….the line used is …if we live yiu will be all mince meat served at Greek tavern…..
And…..Greeks are stealing time oil…but as long as we are here your oil is safe……
It’s ok the young TC s rarely believe or even notice this old fashion bigot stories
Orhan Ozdes
January 6, 2018 at 20:14You are great! Welldone, and keep on being great by just dreaming!
antonis/ac
December 19, 2017 at 10:29“It is a fact that Mr. Akinci had specific demands from the Greek Cypriot side in the negotiations [at Crans Montana]. For him the rotating Presidency and the effective participation of the Turkish Cypriots, were very important. And we have seen that President Anastasiades made moves to meet these requirements, but still ended [without a solution] because TURKEY put forth (raised) other things.” (Niazi Kizilurek.)
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:37Niazi Kizilyurek who works in the South in Cyprus University and receives salary is expected to defend TCs??? How ridiculous of you…
Muffin the Mule
December 19, 2017 at 10:20Inevitable, given post Crans Montana.
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:49This is a very sober approach that should be accepted by the South and followed up with recognition. Two sovereign states can easily agree on all open questions such as territory and property without political pressure. What’s wrong with two friendly neighborly states?
ROC..
December 19, 2017 at 10:47Thier is only one ROC whereby two states can exsist, this notion of two sovereign states is not going to happen, 43 years you been singing the same tune,
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:42HT is not well
Spins the official line
Give up and give in….I am based in Turkey…we hear this rubbish everyday …educated Turks laugh in private …..ht is a settler or paid blogger
Does NOT reflect young TCs views,,!
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:45Educated Turks “laugh in private”? How would you know that? You obviously don’t move in such circles.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:48You know my circles….?
Obviously you should know …you know everything…are you related to Allah ?
You are sick
Stop hurting the TCs please !
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:54You are an imposter. Admit it.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 17:00You should know …your views are all based on evidence on facts …like the stuff you spin on this site….I was told by some TCs not to bother on this site it’s full of cave dwellers….spinning rubbish from Ankara …. .shouting bullying and thinking they have the right to be Turks alone…..yep I admit it I am an imposter…if you are a Turk it’s a club I would nit want to join full of lies and deception bullying the TCs with the settlers the troops and fanciful promises or nationhood of puppeteers shame on you…you are causing more damage than the Greeks the E U ….and you don’t know it?
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 17:06Minutes ago you posted that you live in Turkey, then you were in India and tomorrow you will be in North Cyprus. What’s next, Honolulu?
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 17:12That’s the best you can do?
Would like to meet you
But you would never have the courage for that …as it seems you know thecrubbuxh you write …sorry the rubbish you plagiarise from Ankara is lies
TCs are doomed ….people like you are hunting them down
Stop attacking and start orivng your view….seems yiur blogs reflect how hollow your views are
view….
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 17:26Why would you read Australian Real Estate publications if you have never been there? Want to buy a flat?
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:25As usual, the views of Greeks/GCs are perfect and those of Turks/TCs are flawed. You are obviously one brainwashed GC…
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:36The views you express cut and paste from Ankara dint assume every single Turk agrees ….we don’t….we may not be loud as you but the ideas and statements coming out if Ankara only fuels Turk haters…..you may not know this as you do not travel or work globally or read anything but stuff from Ankara…you why the UK voted against the EU….google it….yiu know why Merkel almost lost….you know why there is a right wing leader in Austria….they all ran anti turkey hatred campaigns….they call us empire builders racists thieves liars …etc etc etc….very unfair and untrue,,.but then we gave bloggers like you…the slaves of Ankara….you are causing great damage to Turks globally….but you don’t care as long as the north is taken by your masters who who what is best for all Turks…..please stop the damage
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:46The only Turk hater here is you and the pseudo-patriots.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:45I think he is a pilot so he lives everywhere..
mnara
January 7, 2018 at 01:39Naci senin kadar mankafali ozurlu bir insan yok siktir git turkiyede yasa had.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:24WOW someone who truly cares about TCs!!! You deserve a medal but do not worry your employers (The Office of Deceit and Misinformation of South Cyprus) will give you your medal for being so caring. You are only fooling yourself here. We, TCs know your identity FAKE TURK..
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:30Your are not helping TCs
Please focus on the issue
It’s about the TCs being overtaken by settlers
the systematic destruction of TC identity …changing names of roads to the dominance of Ankara and its troops ….
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:45For the last time-if there was ever a choice between Turkey/Turks and GCs, we always choose Turkey/Turks over GCs. Do you expect us to live with bunch of extreme racist as equals??? I do not think so. If you love them so much, go to South and make sure you tell them you are a Turk from Turkey and hope that those ELAM and EOKA boys do not turn you into minced meat…
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:41You just can’t stop peddling the spin
Yes the works just accept it…..turkey gets to wipe out the TCs and gets a new country as its puppet ….what’s wrong with that….you
need help….medical help ….
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:43You can’t even deal with proper and friendly suggestions. You are truly sick.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:54I deal with it like you deal with diverse views….must be a fake Turk
Or a Greek
Or a Jew
Or Armenian
Or whoever is the hate of the day ….
You shut down debate by the fake Turk or you are a Greek
You can never explore that maybe it’s you …you are the problem….the rubbish you write ….sorry I meant repeat the rubbish you get from Ankara…you think that’s helps the TC cause….really…that’s how you win over people by being a bullying harassing others attacking Attacking and blaming the Greeks…really smart sensible stuff….so you don’t need help ?
Off course you should know….
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:21Says the fake Turk. Typical Greek/GC reply…
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:28That’s the best you can do …calling others fake greek ?
Really ?
How is that helpful?
Do you think anyone cares about “fake Greek” name calling ?
CH
December 20, 2017 at 11:56Agreed
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 14:04As you can read from the blogs of the Ankara gang they don’t like other Turks unmasking their racist bigoted crime against the TCs they spin total utter rubbish as facts and as the views of all TCs .
As you can read they want to steal the north, dilute the TCs with settlers, bully the TCs to become a nation puppet
Of turkey
Sounds familiar ?
It’s..everything the greek junta tried Turkey is attempting to the extreme and the High Tide and Nacis are the criminal collaborators and thieves …you can read their rage their complicity and racism dripping from every word……
Please note not all Turks are like this
These bloggers are extremists the ISIS of Turkey
The rest of us are too busy with life our careers and family so these clowns are on this site peddling this rubbish as if they represent all Turks….they don’t!
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:39Says the FAKE TURK. In which church in Greece or Cyprus have you been baptized??? You are a true troll. You never represented any Turk or Turkey as you are not a Turk but Greek/GC so what are you on??? Go take your pill as you are hallucinating again claiming to be a Turk. Besides why do you “care” about TCs. We do not need your sympathy or support. Go support your own people the Greeks/GCs..
antonis/ac
December 19, 2017 at 00:40“Turkey constantly talks about give and take, but she constantly wants to take without giving. She will give a small piece of the conquered territories and will take the State. And she considers this a great concession. She will never forgo the guarantees. . . . It is not Greece which sabotages the negotiations, it is Turkey. All those who, with regard to this issue, put Greece and Turkey in the same basket are wrong. Turkey and not Greece is the occupying power in Cyprus and has been so for forty two years.” (Sener Levent)
Sam
December 19, 2017 at 00:43LIES;
More LIES;
Try and speak the truth for once on CM and you may receive a bit of Respect;
Fabrications is what your full of;
SOKRATIS
December 19, 2017 at 01:00F.Y.I antonis/ac is merely quoting your compatriot’s statement in the newspaper Politis. The statement is true and correct. If you do not like Sener Levent’s statement it does not mean that it is untrue, nor does it make it less respectful. This is food for thought.
Sam
December 19, 2017 at 01:20Right!
If you read Antonis statement he says it is Turkey whom sabotaged the talks; This is a utter lie; As it was Nick and his GC parliament barking they want peace and in Turn the Enosis Anthem was introduced during the Unification Talks;
It was Enosis which why Turkey had to intervene in the first place;
It was Enosis which has bought Cyprus to where it is Today;
It was Enosis Anthem which caused Akinci to walk out of the last Talks;
Therefore only a fool would read and absorb such ill statement your countrymen Antonis has made;
Actually Antonis is a Member of ELAM; What can one expect from such a idiotic person?
Your free support Antonis;
Only difference is I don’t and nor does many on CM either as he copies and paste and is a Full on Turkish basher’
SOKRATIS
December 19, 2017 at 03:01If you do not agree with a true statement it is your own prerogative. However this does not automatically give you the right to slander and accuse someone as an alleged racist simply because you do not like the truth. Weak people like you who have weak arguments resort to slanderous unfounded accusations to cover their weaknesses and their complete ignorance of the true facts. So the use of personal slander becomes your weapon of choice, followed with propaganda. This is food for thought.
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:42What is a ‘true statement’? You are confusing personal opinion with truth, which is not surprising, given your own twisted understanding of facts.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 04:09“Turkey whom sabotaged the talks” not quite true….sure Turkey has an agenda they are not in the north to help or protect the TCs
spent some time in the north…
Turkeys real agenda is clear when you meet the settlers
To blame Turkey is not realistic,
Turkey has found a wonderful opportunity so they will not leave and the T Cs will have to accept that…the troops changing name of streets towns and off course the settlers….
As of the RACISTS south I did not stay long enough to meet such people
I suppose there are Turkish bashes ( met many of them overseas!)
often Turkey gives these bad people reason to bash Turkey…..you just cant blame Greeks for that !
Naci Rizaoglu
December 19, 2017 at 06:10Here goes the fake Turk again. You are full of shit…
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 06:44Hey Naci
(or is that “Nazi “)
did you join the gangsters (mainly settlers I am told)
who went to attack the editor of Afrika…he must also be a FAKE TURK (is is he really a Greek or Jew or Armenia in disguised….maybe he is ……
You are not big on tolerating fellow Turks diverse views are you ?
Your lack of tolerance…is that racism…?
Yep I must be a fake Turk. You are the authority of giving out ethnicity…forget the genetics / DNA /culture / family….you know you are Allah ?
Naci Rizaoglu
December 19, 2017 at 08:01If you are a real Turk, why would you be so obsessed with the Greeks and GCs??
Your views are not diverse in the least. Every post belittles the TCs and the Turks and you make it very obvious.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 08:29You seem to be obsessed with the Greeks and GCs
I don’t care about them I have no dealings with them they mean nothing to me
I don’t believe in deaminizing helps …its immature not constructive and reflects badly on those that demonise others
I feel sorry for TCs
I have lived & seen what they are going thru
I have many TC fiends… they are proud hard working quiet people….
I rarely heard TCs blame the south or Greeks like some of the bloggers her
I suppose young educated travelled TCs are sophisticated smart and know the issue is more complex than blaming the Greeks
We should all trying to help the young TCs
Stop the dilution of TCs culture language, changing names of places… stop the settlers
Turkey wants to help and protect then they should withdraw the settlers
Be better than the Greeks,
Honour their word and protect the integrity of TCs …stop pushing a Turkey agenda start supporting a TC agenda !!!!
Naci Rizaoglu
December 19, 2017 at 08:57TCs do not support Turkey’s agenda. Neither do they support the Greek/GC agenda whose only wish is to turn the entire Island into a Greek island and treat TCs as a minority with inferior rights and subjected to racism resulting from extreme brainwashing in the South.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 11:36Many TCs DO support Turkey’s agenda.
They say that in public
They must do that
They need the investment the jobs ….
They have very little choice
When they oppose the “agenda” in any form they get the treatment dished out to AFRIKA
I don’t think they can support the south openly even if they wanted to
I don’t think the “ turn the entire Island into a Greek island “ is really a 21 st century issue.
It’s an old demon put out to keep people in their place.
The issue is far more complex than simple “a Greek island “
The issue of treating TCs as a minority with inferior rights etc is NOT based on today it’s the past. Remembers TCs are not living with the south now….so how does that argument work today ?
From the TCs I know living in the south it seems this issue is historical and not really relevant in a globalised world and in a EU country.
The TCs in the south seem to well off, they got their land back, some are in business.
I met with them, know them, and what they say you will not find on the blogs of this site.
They are the silent hard working family people with careers who love the island and prefer the western type society.
Sure there are racist & extremists who love to engage in brainwashing (even in Turkey hard to believe eh ?)
To generalise that all Greeks or Turks or westerners want all Turks to be Greeks etc or victimise all Turks is a very simplistic, and a generalisation
As if Turkey and Turks do not treat minorities as inferiors look at the Kurds, the Christians Jews in Turkey ……
You can’t blame the Greeks as the ONLY people who are genetically programmed to victimise Turks that’s plainly silly.
Remember Turkeys neighbours have not forgotten what we as a minority ruled over the majority when our ancestors had the Ottoman Empire
.
It was a brutal period of ethnic engineering forcing Turks to migrate and populate parts of the Empire.
My TCs friend an engineer in the south explains that’s how his family got to Cyprus ….force migration to change the makeup of the island a long time ago !
Same happened in Syria Slavakia Bulgaria etc. THats the baggage both Greeks and Turks have to carry…the deeds of others of the long past condemn the young of today.,…S A D !
Unfortunately this stuff is also taught at School
That’s why Turkey bashing is still around…and with the help of Turkey gets fueled regularly
Fortunately the younger TCs on other blogs sites and those I have spoken to are far too sophisticated to believe in this dated phony arguments .
But why stop it sounds good fiction.
Keep at it !!!
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 12:21More unrealistic beliefs. The result of a referendum in the past and very recent opinion polls have confirmed that the majority of TRNC citizens wish to run their own affairs. Since the BBF is dead, continued partition with a future recognized TRNC is the only viable solution.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 12:52settlers & troops voted
Free media allowed
People given access to info
Well informed voters ?
Been there saw it talked to them….dream on
If there were NO TROOPS OR SETTLERS OR CHANGE IN NAMES AND freedom of expression press ……I could believe it was a valid vote
Clearly, from what you read in the EU and UN report on this…it was distorted to various extent…like the recent Turkey vote
Good try
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 13:01You are great liar about something you don’t know. Only Turkish Cypriot citizens vote in referenda and elections, 185.000 the last time. There are many publications in the TRNC, from left to right that you obviously are not capable of reading. Your allegation of EU and UN reports being distorted shows your ignorance of the workings of these institutions. Maybe it happens in your Australian home, certainly not here.
What you wish to believe is neither here nor there. It doesn’t tickle anyone in the TRNC.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 15:11Your arrogance is showing
How do you know only Turkish Cypriots voted
Not MY allegations it in the EU and UN reports go online and read them
Are they lying too?
Why are you distorting the truth …..why would the EU & UN lie ?
Never been to Australian
You have them too?
Like many young TCs we are not stuck in the past bigoted ways
The world has moved on
You grossly misrepresent TCs…why do you do that?
You are only feeding the Turk haters
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:41You are the main Turk hater here. We do not hate Turks. In fact we love them and owe our lives to them. If it was not for the Turkish Army in 1974, we would all have been turned into minced meat by murderer Nicos Samson and other EOKA men. We are forever grateful to Turkey for protecting us from evil…
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 00:00Who is “we”
I showed you blog to a group of TCs…they laughed ….
I am a self hating Turk….yiu are brilliant …are you a comic ?
you always forget to mention the junta killed majority Greeks
It was a Greek civil war before most of us were born
Not sure how you can blame othees who are now dead or very old …and base a whole argument on that…
Admit it….yiu want all TCs to just roll over and become skates t Ankara your master
Change street names today
Next week change people’s names
Turkey is not credible honest or pro TC otherwise why dump settlers change names of streets…
Please don’t treat fellow Turks and TCs like we are all blind can’t read and think…..
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 04:20Do you really think that we will place the future of our people in Cyprus in the hands of the young and naive TCs who have no knowledge of the past events in Cyprus. See the GCs do a very good job brainwashing their children from birth and also in Churches to hate everything Turkish. Us TCs do not do that thus our young see a pink World and not the real World…So keep on talking our your in the North and telling people here that they do not think like us.. Who cares??? We lived though the Cyprus problem and we are the living proof knowing not to trust the South without Guarantees from Turkey even though it may be temporary.
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 04:54Don’t you sleep!
It explains your rambling maybe?
The young can’t see why they have to be hostages to the ADT, artal that baggage….it’s a global world
What our ancestors did is not or fault
We don’t need carry grudges hold animosity that’s immature and not productive or progressive
Look at traditional enemies in Europe the Americas at war for centuries….smart and mature to move on
No need for bigotry racism we hate all Greeks including children babies etc or calling people fake Greeks Turks etc
You allegedly can’t trust the great grandchildren of the people of the 1970s….really ?
That’s the argument ?
Or do you just say…anyone who disagrees must be a fake Turk etc…you know….name calling…that’s not very helpful and it turns away the young TCs who see this issue baggage the old generation are at fault for making and forcing the young to live with the mess…they are not interested in blaming they want a workable realistic outcome….no war no troops no settlers no Ankara shadow …..the young understanding 50% share of everything by a minority may not work…there are many other working models arround the works which many young T Cs talk about…these are online…the two state solution or equal sharing solutions is not the only possible outcome….
Your argument is Not serious….
Using the past blaming every single Greek for what happened five decades ago only helps the Turk haters to say we are primitive vindicative people stuck in the past….
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 05:28So its ok for the Greeks/GCs to brainwash their kids to hate everything Turkish but not ok for us not forgetting the past? Typical GC response. You always conveniently avoid anwering my questions.. Please go live in the South and make sure you tell them you are Turkish. Lets see how long it will take before you are turned into minced meat by ELAM and EOKA..
Jenny Bahtimy
January 7, 2018 at 15:04I like to come back to my country and live in Trachonas were I was born and raised, I am a Cypriot I speak Greek, how do I go about it? will the T
HighTide
January 7, 2018 at 15:12Check with a TRNC rep office abroad or contact the Ministry of Interior in Lefkoşa.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 00:13You are the SAVIOUR the TCs have been waiting for. Please save us from these evil people… If you are a Turk go save the ethnic Turks living in Thrace, Greece who are not allowed by the racist Greek government to call themselves Turkish. They are not allowed to pick their own muftu either. And here you are telling me that TCs will have a better life with the EU and not Turkey.
We know you work for the GC Misinformation and Deceit Office of Propaganda. Your agenda is clear and no TC on this forum believes you. Go bark another tree we are too educated and smart for you to fool. Besides if you are a Turk then bud out mate we do not need anything from you. Go support your compatriots in Greece and South Cyprus.
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 01:28At last the truth (or maybe? never know with your spin )…….
IT’S ALL ABOUT PAY BACK ….AGAINST THE GREEKS of GREECE
So you are using the TCs to hit back at Greece?
Whats that got to do with the TCs?
WHAT U SAY ……………….….they can’t even pick their own muftu just imagine that, the world has come to and end !!!
Whats that got to do with the TCs?
Is that a good reason for the 30,000 troops the settlers changing names towns streets, painting big flags treating TC s like total idiots real bully stuff…..very smart ….
Off course TCs will ALWAYS have a better life under Turkey.
You want to hand the north over to Turkey. (they have it now and remind people daily as I recall when I was there…very subtle)
All your arguments are driven by your desire to steal the north and force the TCs into Turkey .
But you blame the EU Greeks UN etc
The Turk haters must love you!!!
You are the gift that keeps giving…….you must be popular in Germany …….
I thought the issue was protecting the rights of minorities on the island.
ITS NOT !!!
What a revelations. Its about psyback & stealing…just like the Nazis keep saying we Turks aer good for …thieves and liars!!
well done….. you are DEFINITELY popular in Germany ……
What about the TCs I stayed with in the South who according to you cannot be “Turks”
Really ?
You are a total sham.
You don’t care about the TC s.
BUT I and MANY Thank YOU for being honest at last.
For Misinformation and Deceit & Propaganda leave it up to you the Naci (or is that Nazi whatever you are I suppose the Nazi would make you an honorary member as you give them so much material to use WELL DONE )
Your agenda is clear
TC s are too scared or cannot be bothered to be on this forum.
I was told it’s full of people like you so whats the use ….its embarrassing
Perhaps you could find a Turkish tree with a Turkish flag maybe ( remember not a Greek or French or EU tree, those trees are evil and hate Turks !!!!) and do your well-practised business then bark away into the night…..
Thankfully young TCs can see thru people like you.
I am of Turkish background. Don’t use others for revenge. That’s not what the Turks I know do, we do not manipulate or use others to settle old scores .
Grow up – and bud out !
You clearly have nothing to add
…its always the same….
“give the north to Turkey because because because because…..”
if Turkey is so good you go and live there…and take the settlers troops with you and leave the TCs alone
Yes I must be Greek …..the totality of your come back & argumenbt
Your argument “you must be Greek” sums up why TCs are not on this site beautifully.
Your tolerance and honesty is special
You are the thief in the night to steal the north and be reward by your masters in Turkey
then blame the Greeks
See why you feul the Turk haters ?
You probably can’t see it (or admit to it)
BUT At least the north can then pick their own muftu…. That explains everything
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:38Are you upset because I am writing the evil that exists in your mother country GREECE??? Well I am not sorry. You are very biased toward Greece and South Cyprus but the truth must be heard. The Greeks and GCs are no Angels…
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:54You don’t like what I write …so challenge it on facts ….
You don’t like that I am a Turk?
Calling people Greek is silly it shows you having nothing to add
You are causing damage to the debate ….you might as well join the Greeks …or even better the European nazis who use turkey and people like you as examples of how backward selfish and uncivilised we are….yiu are causing damage to overseas Turks ….
Other Turks are not on this site….why….you are an embarrassment …..I am hoping you are a provocator based in Russia …..
Not sure where you get I am a supporter of Greeks
I dint know any
Never been there
I don’t about the Greeks….unlike yourself
The Greeks have a different reputation and image to us globally……go online and read it…..they have their idiots…nazis etc…..we Turks seem to be just good at fuelling the turkey bashers and haters.,..
divadi bear
January 9, 2018 at 12:27Naci
G.C.s., are no Angels……….
……….Neither are the TCs !
One can only become an Angel, (perhaps), when one is dead.
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:40By his own account he has relatives and business interests in South Cyprus and just likes to be an agent provocateur.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:01Do I ?
Didnt know that
Wrong again
I have no business interests any where
I recently spent time in the north with a family friend
I spent a few nights with TCs in the south (they were FAKE TURKS or is that FAKE TCs….up to you …you make the rules ….)
You dont need an agent provocateur you and your friends are doing a good job!!
Keep it up ….
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:35It is you who is racist NAZI not me. All you do is pretend to care about TCs by putting Turkey down. We are used to this typical GC/Greek tricks. It never worked on us and it will never work with you either.
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:47You know Nazis, mr or mrs Naci ?
I don’t put down turkey
I challenge Ankara when it must be challenged on evidence
That’s the duty of all Turks to ensure Turkey is a good proud responsible fair and respected member of the world
Your paranoid and need help if you think the world is run by Greeks or only Greeks hate us…….travel and see and hear the damage your masters are causing on Turks globally.
The world does not believe or trust turkey …so it joins Putin….that sums up where your masters are going
From one thief liar bully to another. Ankara to Putin
stop helping nazis use Turkey to win elections in the uk Germany Poland and Austria
…stop the turkey bashers ….
Stop thinking it’s only turkey ….there are others on this planet
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:51Your beloved Greek Cyprus (the South) always plays games with the EU and Russia. Its all politics…
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:39You are hopelessly out of touch with reality. Greek street names in Turkish North Cyprus were changed for Turkish names decades ago, and rightly so. You won’t find English street names in Paris either.
The TRNC has developed nicely thanks to Turkish intervention in 1974 and the billions of investment since.
This is highly appreciated and will continue.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 11:13don’t know if I am hopelessly out of touch with reality
You seem to an authority on “ reality” perhaps ?
TC family in the north shown me some old pictures of the signs from the 1950s or 60s they were clearly in Turkish with the equivalent Greek interpretation (we know this we used Google translation)
I was then shown the same street today with a totally different name in Turkish (noticed there was no Greek, very subtle)
I was told this was done in the 80s and 90s
I don’t know if TRNC has developed nicely thanks to Turkey.
Its seems anything but.
I do know and spoke to the locals and settlers
I can assume you are a settler or supporter of the settler or work for some government body political party….connected to the regime in some way…if so maybe you should consider moving to Turkey ?
I suppose you highly appreciated the influx of settlers the change of names the billions invested to make the TCs into real Turks not those fake Turks right ?
Just ask the editors of Africa
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 12:18Africa is a communist paper, no need to ask anyone there. Communists in the TRNC are a tiny specie. You are really out of touch. Each country names its streets in its own language and with its own references. There is no need for Greek street names in the TRNC. A rather naive demand.
Your suggestion to move to Turkey is an arrogant statement for something that is none of your business. The subject here is the TRNC.
Whether you like it or not, the TRNC has grown with immigration and money from Turkey, thanks to the policies of the “ROC”. Citizenship is free upon qualifying and not for sale as in the South.
You know nothing of the majority attitude in North Cyprus.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 12:48So you saying communists don’t have rights?
Can’t they express their views freely even if they are silly ?
Dont you like minorities ?
I think you miss the point about the name changes as I did when I was told about this
Yes each country names its streets in its own language and with its own references.
So why the names were changed totally from the old TC names to other names?
Don’t TCs have the right to keep the TC names?
TCs tell me there are Turkish names in the south.
TCs feel uncomfortable of this “wiping out the past” or ethnic cleansing stuff.
I have been saying the Greeks want to turn the island into Greece wipe out
TCs…but the truth is Turkey is doing the same ….to the extreme…look at the name changes throughout Turkey from Istanbul etc …… it’s a shameful part of our history…now they are doing it in the north….
Name changes, the settlers, free land, etc …….I think you know what I mean
Why don’t you move to Turkey …seems you fit nicely
Not sure if it’s an arrogant statement ….. I leave the arrogance to you
….if Turkey and its cheering squad were honest they would not flood the place with settlers and change names etc…..the young TCs are not stupid they know what the end game is …as you do ………it’s a shame you care little about the people a lot about the agenda
You may not realise it but you are fueling the Turkey haters….please refrain …you are not helping the TC cause…
TRNC is not the answer
Young TC s say that…..
The young TCs want to be part of the west
( I warn them the west is racist, I see it daily its not pretty …..)
So keep up with the brainwashing…. BUT the young get their info from other global sources
You can fool some of the people some of the time, not all the people all the time
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 13:11You live in your own dream world which is far away from reality. Try to make you own environment a better one instead of wisecracking about matters you don’t know. Talking to a handful of people is not enough to pretend.
Who said communists have no rights? You are falsifying statements. Communists can write whatever they wish but their views represent 2-3% of the voters, thus being irrelevant for others.
Look after your interests in South Cyprus, that will be more profitable for you than baseless speculations about the North.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 15:27You mean you don’t live in the real world
I am based in Turkey at the moment
Currently visiting friends in India
Do you hate Indians as well ?
Whats my environment …. Turkey?
Turkey is beyond help for the moment.
It’s sad
How do you know I talked to a handful of people ?
Who said communists have no rights? YOU DID
And its clear they are NOT communists they just have a different view from yours, many do support them but may not vote them…..So what, they are relevant, and it shows Turks can tolerate diverse views in a civilized way…can’t we?
I have nothing to do with the south. But I was there for three days living with a TC family…is that a crime? I must be a FAKE Turk living in the south with other FAKE TURKS!!!
You should try it never know what you may actually learn !!!
I have lived in the north for a while …. I don’t know who you are or if you have ever been to the island but your blog is pure propaganda, its too obvious to the extent that is cringe worthy (that means embarrassing…sorry but its what my friend a TC that is travelling with me just said when they read your blog….they laughed out loud !!!)
You only fuel the Turk haters
You are NOT helpful to the T Cs
You should support the TCs
Stop the settlers AND the damage its causing to TC culture
OR
are you the type of person who thinks that the big painted flag is a really good smart sophisticated clever good idea…….…REALLY ?????????????????????
Evergreen
December 19, 2017 at 15:40HT is a genuine commentor. You sound someone fake actually.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 15:47You mean a one sided commentator
Peddles the line from you know where
Only fuels the Turk haters
HT may be a good person means well from hte blogs you cannot seriously say “genuine commentator” that is a stretch
I am not a commentator
Yes I am a FAKE TURK (HT has clever words right ?)
I was born a fake Turk
What I am….is a listener , I read think learn ……dont rely on commentators or the official spin and don’t deamonise Greeks the EU UN etc etc….its possible Turkey is NOT always right or just or fair….its possible Turkey could be the issue here…..but many are too scared to say it
Not saying Greeks are saints !!!
HT comments are generally not helpful although may genuinely mean well …
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:32You a suffering from some form of complex. Seek help.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:34Now you are a psychologist commentator ….that’s the best you can do
Has your masked peeled ?
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:40It does not need a psychologist to understand that you are a seriously confused person.
Evergreen
December 19, 2017 at 18:00What you r doing here?
Cyprus
December 19, 2017 at 20:24What do you mean by that , Bobby is a TC and proud of it, he has every right to be on here. I have a lot of respect for High Tide but I agree with and respect Bobby and when he says High Tide fuels Turk haters like the person called ROC for example . I agree with Bobby that most Tcs and Gcs just want to live together in peace and harmony as one identity calling themselves Cypriots with no motherlands just friendly neighbors .
Evergreen
December 19, 2017 at 20:43We agree to disagree.
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 20:57According to his own statement, he is of Turkish background, if true, but not a Turkish Cypriot. He curses Turkey every time. As his place of residence he shows Hong Kong and monitors Australian real estate publications. He also claims to have relatives in the South. A highly doubtful character to be taken with a big heap of salt.
Cyprus
December 19, 2017 at 21:12There are quite a lot of Tcs in Australia I hope he is what he says he is . Cyprus desperately needs its people to unite together in peace and harmony, love not war
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 21:16He wrote he has never been in Australia. Place of residence: Hong Kong. I don’t believe a word.
Cyprus
December 19, 2017 at 21:22Could be he works and travels on business alot and is based in Hong Kong. He does seem educated like you ,
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 21:39Everything is possible but not credible.
Evergreen
December 19, 2017 at 21:49Me either😃😂😄
Evergreen
December 19, 2017 at 21:48Thank you. I could not express it better. 😊😅
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:32He is full of shit. He is a paid agent of the South to put shit on Turkey. They have been trying this propaganda for over 43 years now and still too stupid to understand that it does not work. He pretends to be a saint trying to save us TCs but it is him who needs saving from his delusions…;
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:30Greeks and GCs have never been saints and never will be saints. They are the ones who started this whole Cyprus problem with their ENOSIS…
Bobby
December 20, 2017 at 23:40Yes Turks are the saints sent from Allah…to send in the settlers take away property change the names of streets treat the minorities in turkey so well…all .the Greeks are devils eat babies are animals not worthy of humanity……let the Turks rule …..
Is that correct….?
Keep up the good work….they love you in Austria and Poland …yiu fit the image if the typical Turk …,an image overseas Turks have tried to change for decades …you destroy our efforts for your selfish racists taunts
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:48Yes Turks are saints. They saved us from extinction. If it was not for the Turkish army, Nicos Samson would make minced meat out of all TCs…
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:31You cannot think clearly and you are lying. Have a nice day.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:28Your whole life is a lie. One day you are in NC, one day in the South, next day in Greece, now in Turkey. I guess you are a pilot of Every Country Airlines…
divadi bear
January 9, 2018 at 11:59Naci Rizaoglu
Bobby wrote in one of his comment that he is in India.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:27Why is this clown so obsessed with the Street names in the North??? What is it to him?? Is he going to be appointed the future Minister of Interior of Cyprus perhaps???
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:36Except that Levent speaks for a tiny communist minority in the TRNC and carries no weight. What he believes is his personal opinion and that of his few comrades.
Kyrenia
December 19, 2017 at 00:18To quote a saying by Boris Johnson, they can go and whistle.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 22:57How many more proposals was meant to be put forward to the ROC before they considered accepting any;
TC are tired of insisting and compromising for unification and help from the Europeans;
Enough is Enough;
ROC continuous Veto and None Acceptance of all TRNC proposals is the result of recognition in the long run;
I’m afraid the ROC has bought this on;
Louis
December 19, 2017 at 00:34Had Turkey complied with U.N. resolutions, the problem would have been solved long ago.
Sam
December 19, 2017 at 00:41Which Resolutions?
Do you mean UN demanding Turkey to get out of Cyprus?
That would never of happened even if Turkey had to Repeat the War Independence;
One must realize the TC and Cyprus means great Importance to Turkey and they will protect both with Max Fire Power;
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:04Wasting your time…High Tide needs to look up the official spin on this…
Remember its ALWAYS the nasty Greeks fault
Turkey was sent by God (Allah)
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:43Not by Allah, by stupid Colonels in Greece who invaded Cyprus on 15/07/1974.
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 00:05It was Allah…a gift to turkey …it’s better than stealing it right?
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:59Why do you keep on using the name of MIGHTY ALLAH. Are you stupid. TCs are Bektasi and are not religious but do believe in Allah… Ask your masters in the South to prescribe another word for you as you are taking Allah’s name in vain…
alexanderthegreat
December 30, 2017 at 01:50Yeah, sure Turkey was sent by Allah; and I’m Lazarus risen from the dead!
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 09:43That’s a very naive thought. Back to class!
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:03why should Turkey comply
Notice it insists others comply to UN resolutions….
How naive that Turkey believe in the rule of law…..High Tide you are ingenious.
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:34You impersonate different identities every time you post.
What’s next?
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:42Rule of Law??? How much rule of law exist in the South when it concerns the TCs’ rights??? NONE
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 00:04I don’t know
You seem to be the expert once again…..right?
I do know TCs live in the south have property and businesses in the south and have Turkish names…I met a town mayor in the south of TC background …
.I did not meet anything similar in the north other than a Russian couple and a English man running businesses.
No doubt you will have a fake greek or fake Turk or Greeks eat Turkish babies or Greeks ban Turkish words food or names story to tell us ………
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:54Well all Turkishness is banned in your mother country Greece… What do you say about that???
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 03:57The GCs in the South banned the use of Turkish Coffee. It is called Greek/Cyprus Coffee and you make no comment about that and you keep saying we changed the Street names. Of course we will. Our language is Turkish thus Turkish street names… The reason they do not do that in the South is all propaganda towards the EU. Trying to show that they are just to the TCs… We are all fed up with the lies and deceit of the Government in the South.
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 14:00Turkish settlers in the north staging protests outside the offices of Afrika,
some of them throwing eggs at the building that houses the daily,
other settler organisations have threatened the newspaper and its authors and demanded it cease being published and that it only report pro Ankara stories…so where you in the crowd?
so whats been banned in the north ?
If you have evidence about ANY EU state contravening the Mastrictch treaty on minorities report it ….. its done ever day in the EU it is a very good website on protecting minority rights and a very pro active fearless Commission in charge who recently punish the UK over black and muslem in the UK
Germany paid to compensation a Turkish family on this basis as well.
The south was warned over delays in giving a TC their land title
No troops were used !
Les
December 18, 2017 at 22:18There is no hope for unification so what other option is there to follow? The full partition of the island is going to happen!
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 22:58Options are exhausted;
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 15:55they are changing the names of roads towns …not into TC names but mainland names…TCs look at this in horror and say NOTHING !!! I saw it . Turkey has pumped up the north that they can have a nation,and join the EU and be the puppet of Turkey……….within the EU…
you should read the stuff they tell people….unfortunately the younger TCs see right through it…dont believe the High Tide blogger and its cheering squad…they represent the noise mob…most TCs are quiet reserved people…disengaged from a lot of this
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:36Who is behind your false propaganda comments sent from India?
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:39Yes you have the real propaganda
You may be genuine
Your views are not new….you are repeating what you have been told
You have nothing new to add
I guess that’s why the young TCs didn’t bother to blog here because if people like you…..
I suppose you now hate India….
I am not Indian
I am Turkish….or as you write a FAKE Turk
You need help more than Turkey
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:42Enjoy your curry and have a safe flight home, wherever that may be.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:46I am back in the north next week
Please stop your ridiculous stuff you write here its totally not credible
Go online read what the global press the bodies the academics the courts ……..you are spinning pure lies …..food for the Turk haters
Not helpful
No contribution
The TCs dint need this….with the issues they have ….it’s unfair
Don’t you care
Just go away and read a little more than the rubbish you are given
Sad
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:48I suggest you stop caring for us, we can not handle it anymore. It is really overwhelming!!!
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 00:16I don’t know who you are….
I think the “we” you use is presumptious not accurate
I think maybe you are overwhelmed that a fellow Turk is challenging your masters views…be tolerant and stop helping the turkey haters
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 04:03If you wish to challenge Ankara, go and do it in Turkey. We do not care. We only care about the future and very existence of our people the TCs. You should be concerned about (if you are a Turk) the welfare of the Turks in Turkey.
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 05:00Or you are scared or paid by Ankara
You on,y care about stealing and giving it to Ankara
I am concerned about the way Turks are seen globally
I am worried the TCs their culture language will be impacted by the settlers
If there were no settlers then Ankara could look a little more credible to stay in the north
The setters the change of steer names is spoken by TCs I meet it’s online ……can’t hide what is happening
The TCs understandably are reluctant to speak up….its obvious
Few Turks globally have spoken up and shut down
Some are in camps …according to a EU Report
We should all ensure Ankara is accountable for the sake of all Turks …..they are not our masters !
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 05:31Yeah I am paid by Ankara!!!! Perhaps you are paid by the South to pretend to be fake Turk and put down everything Turkish to elevate the the GC propaganda. We are not buying it mate. Go fool naive young TCs because you can not fool us..
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 06:13If Ankara cared why the settlers the name changes …..why the military bases aimed at Syria Iran and Iraq and Israel
Ankara giving out jibs property….if you really live or been to the north or know people from the north then you know what’s been happening….not saying the south is good perfect or saints or faultless …..
I don’t think governments have the right to brainwash the people regardless…..I read what text books in Europe and Arab countries say about us it’s wrong and racist…I guess the Greeks do the same I don’t know
I went to a Turkish school overseas
Now that I travel etc I am disappointed the bigotry in the books we used the lies and total rubbish about Turks and turkey….
Seems all sides probably need to tone down….grow up about the past…u can’t change it…realise the place is too small to fight and divide…just not viable
Parties need to decide it they want to have a puppet state
Is it feasible workable productive run a state its government and economy on ethnic or religious splits…the minority gets as much as the majority….they did this in many Scandinavian countries for centuries and in Ireland and some Central European countries till the 1920s…..if there is a workable model minority gets 50% of everything …with or without merit or effort…great!
The young TCs are well read ….the ones I talk to anyway…
They doubt the demands are real or workable ….
TCs go online and read about over possible options in practice today…and everyday….one TC has visited a number of these countries to learn first hand…..this TC has some interesting options…..but these options will mean no puppet state no setylers no changing the makeup the culture …can the Greeks and Ankara deal with that……seems not….is that the real issue….Greek and Ankara want a puppet state …..and the TCs are the victims in all this…..who is standing up for the TCs?
It’s all about promising them a state …part of Turkey…but was that the reason the whole mess cane about the Greeks wanting to have their puppet state ?
Not much of a solution
Ankara is currently looking at being a truly global power with military bases globally. It has more than twenty bases spread Middle East Africa Arabian sub continent etc….I think we all know where this is going…..explains why Egypt Lebanon Jordan and Israel are talking to the south…..they may all be over reacting…but the way the TCs are being used is of concern …and all Turks need to speak up to make sure the TCs are not a minority with the settlers ….a puppet of the great powers
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:46What is it to you really as to what is happening in North Cyprus??? Why do you care? We are the TCs here and we are happy with what we have. Better than being slaves of a racist people who want to dominate is to extinction.. Stop pretending to care for TCs by Turkey bashing. If we as TCs do not complain, who are you to complain with no connection to us TCs???
Bobby
December 21, 2017 at 00:13Best friends I grew up with TCs
I like my friends and we support each other
Unlike yiur blogs my friends have a very different view…so do their families many live in the north some in the south….your Ankara masters are using the TCs…it’s obvious and embarrassing
That’s not bashing turkey or hating turkey
All Turks have a duty to keep Ankara honest and accountable
TCs complain a lot …see Facebook…twitter..the uk and German and Canadian sites….they are not on this site …they are scare disinterested and people like you…younger TCs call it the North Korean thinking…..look we all love turkey no longer be complains!
Just like in North Korea !
An extreme example but it shows the helplessness of younger TCs ….stop saying that you represent all TCs you ceraintly don’t
Stop accusing anyone yiu disagree with as being Greeks it demeans you and the TC cause….if you care
Naci Rizaoglu
December 21, 2017 at 04:01TCs do not need your sympathy. Besides who are you or who asked you to bud in???
Truth
December 18, 2017 at 21:56It’s only a matter of time..
ROC
December 18, 2017 at 21:57For what?
Cyprus
December 18, 2017 at 20:55With Turkey asking the world to recognize the TRNC they are without realising giving the Kurds the right to ask for the full map of Kurdistan to be recognized which includes part of Turkey , Iraq , Iran , Syria .
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:05The elephant in the room
Turkey needs to be careful what they wish for
High Tide is silent on that….no tongue….quickly whats the official spin on this !!!
Martin B. Reynolds
December 18, 2017 at 20:04Mevlut Cavusoglu you should worry about your country only.
the so called TRNC cannot and will not be recognized. your ottoman era wet dreams are ancient history long time ago.
focus on opening your turkish embassy in Jerusalem and ask your mafia boss erDOGan to take other hostile conflicting measures against Israel and the US and watch how many new problems will arise in your beloved mainland turkey.
Mevlut Cavusoglu always remember your country’s faith depends on the regional geopolitical and economical changes between the world elite and powers.
In the near future the Republic of Cyprus will be the least problem for turkey. And whatever amount of turkih troops they have in the occupied north, one day they will need all of them back in turkey to deal with other domestic problems that will arise.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 20:07Says the bubble with the English name.
You have no idea what your on about.
Actually your clueless and your bed is wet!
ROC
December 18, 2017 at 21:55You need to stop being racist. I just reported your comment to CM “
Gold51
December 18, 2017 at 19:57Everybody knows why the talks failed……Despot Erdogan sent his cronies to scuttle any chance of progress…..All you have to do is look at the most stupid rediculas demands possible in twentieth centuary.
And what did Akinci say or do? not a peep. Just part of Erdogans audience while Turkey slowly steels part of his country and fills it up with illegale Anatolian settlers.!!
This demand is just part of the plan anyway……its not going to happen.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 20:04Its going to be so good when the TRNC gets its recognition.
Its going to taste better then your Xmas pudding.
Your lies and fabrications are going to be fully exposed to the world.
And the north will take your tourism to the lowest level ROC has ever seen!
Your going to be Jimmy Saviled mate!
Haha!
ROC
December 18, 2017 at 22:00Wont be long before your be history, CM does not tolerate racists.
Gold51
December 18, 2017 at 22:15TO CM.
DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THIS FORUM SPOILED BY RACIST SAM…..
He’s not right in the head.
If it helps you, its Quovac again.
Hes been removed so many times.
Naci Rizaoglu
December 20, 2017 at 03:50I find you very racist actually. Do we have to put up with you???
Louis
December 19, 2017 at 00:35Or your might choke on your Christmas TURKEY lol
Sam
December 19, 2017 at 00:38Yeah, Perhaps so,
I guess I rather choke then being Jimmy Saviled!
Martin B. Reynolds
December 18, 2017 at 20:15Very well said.
Akinci or any other puppet from the occupied north cannot say or do anything without the permission of the mainland turkish outlaws.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 20:16Re Costa.
Shut up as your clueless.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 15:58Yep
the young TCs I spoke to sum it up… the despot with the settlers have a grip on the north….TC leadership cant do much ….its like they are hostages toi the troops….I saw it, listened in private to what young TCs are saying…. they do not want to join Turkey
They say when the settlers turn up with money cars etc….its obvious the troops are not there for the TCs….
HighTide
December 19, 2017 at 16:39Hostages to the troops? What weird dreams are that? The TRNC is a free and democratic country and the majority wish for self government. Since BBF is dead, an independent and recognized TRNC is the future. Try as you might, your strange spin does not convince anyone who lives here.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 19:52Recognition is the way forward for the TRNC.
Hoping the world can see the reality and factors involved and award recognition Asap.
Looking foward to the backlash of Anti-Turkish GC coming on soon to have match of abuse!
Martin B. Reynolds
December 18, 2017 at 20:04Yes and pigs will fly.
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 20:13You better find your wings then.!
Gold51
December 19, 2017 at 01:05Well done Quovac/Sam.
Back again with your fowl mouth deliberatly causing as much friction as you can. Have you notice moron ….your on your own again.
Please everyone….dont bother with this guy. Hes not worth it. Let him talk to himself untill the moderator gets rid of him again…..
Sam
December 19, 2017 at 01:27Im back alright;
Trust that if I had a fowl mouth CM would bar me from making any comments;
The problem is you having a chip on your should, Your happy when idiots like roc or antonis comes on here using all sorts of language as you sit back and grin and enjoy it,
Only when I come on here and retaliate to those idiots your to fast to make your criticism; I wonder weather if its because I’m Turkish and there Greek?
I have the answer don’t worry!
As your no different then them idiots; A Racist Turkish-Basher is what you are;
The difference between you and me is ; I don’t need anyone to defend the knowledge I have about my country; You do!
TRNC will be recognised soon; And I look forward to celebrating it!
Gold51
December 19, 2017 at 03:03You now nothing except how to use that
Foul mouth of yours gobble gobble gobble!!
Your normal can dribble on about Eoka and your famous 3 villages, boring rubbish…well past sell by date.
You lack knowledge of Cypriot history, your great grandad was a GC… what does that make you ?..lol
About time you crawled back under the rock you normally retreat to every time you get BANNED using your fowl mouth trying to cause hatred as always. You represent only yourself lol !!
Hows the wether in Sweden, your country.??
Still scrounging benefits as normal.
Fevzi Ogelman
December 18, 2017 at 19:35It is obvious that if there’s NOT going to be a solution the status of the north will change. Keeping the Turkish Cypriots isolated and under embargo is unjustified. Compensate the property owners and the problem solved.
Kyrenia
December 18, 2017 at 19:24Is this the same Turkey that got upset about Trump recognising Jerusalem as Israel’s capital? Hypocrites!
Sam
December 18, 2017 at 19:47The world was up set of the recognition of Jerusalem as the capital of israel and not just erdogan.
Thats not hypocritical.
Know your facts before you type foolish comments and looking like a fruitcake.! Lol
Kyrenia
December 18, 2017 at 20:50Most of “the world” don’t ilegaly occupy neighbouring countries. No need for tantrums.
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:07But organised the meetings the protest…leading the pack………..
Bobby
December 19, 2017 at 16:07YEP
thats the point
TCs can see what Turkeys motives are
They are scarred
Israel is also scarred
Evergreen
December 18, 2017 at 19:00Mr. A had committed a fatal mistake through quitting the latest round of negotiations .
alexander reutersward
December 18, 2017 at 18:58I think the United nations and others in the last round of negotiations has been aware of the intention of the north to apply for recognition if the talks collapsed and I have a feeling that the UNITED and others has agreed to support recognition if the collapse of the talks not could be blamed on the north.
now the discussion behind the scenes is if it’s the north fault that it collapsed or not.
Stanlio
December 18, 2017 at 18:35There’s more chance of Elvis being found alive and well in Memphis then there is of the Mickey Mouse, pseudo-regime in occupied Cyprus being recognised as anything other than what is: an odious apartheid ‘state’ based on ethnic cleansing and rampant illegality. The Turks are like spoiled children, believing they can make the world conform to their desires. Time to grow up, time for a reality check – though I’m not holding my breath.
The True Cypriot
December 18, 2017 at 18:51The only smell around here is a racist buffoon like you.
Zakos
December 18, 2017 at 18:06First Palestine and then TRNC.
Zakos
December 18, 2017 at 22:08To stanlio, recognised or not, everyone in north Cyprus are happy, it’s a shame you lot ain’t, your stuck in the past? You had Cyprus in the palm of hand and you lost it. You can’t get use to it.